※ This verbatim record is the dialogue between the late Prof. Medard Boss and Prof. RHEE, which took place at June 12 (10:00-10:50 AM), and 15 (9:00-9:50 AM), 1976, on Zurich Zollicon, Swiss. Prof. RHEE visited Prof. Medard Boss after the attendance of the 10th International Congress of Psychotherapy held on Paris, France.
It's reprinted from Psychotherapy (精神治療) Vol. 6, No. 1, pp.30-43, 1992, Korean Academy of Psychotherapists, Seoul, Korea.

※ 이 대화록은 1976년 7월 이동식 선생이 Paris에서 개최된 IFMP 제 10차 International Congress of Psychotherapy에 참가후, 7월 12일(10:00-10:50 AM)과 7월 15일(9:00-9:50 AM), Swiss의 Zurich Zollikon에서 Medard Boss 교수를 방문하여 Boss 교수와 2회의 대화를 가졌던 녹음 tape를 풀어 적은 것이다. 이 대화 동안 경북대 교수로 당시 Swiss의 C.G. Jung Institute에 유학중이던 이죽내 교수도 동참하였다.
* 본 녹음 내용의 축어록 작성에는 경북의대 강석헌, 이죽내, 임효덕 교수와 서강대학교 생활상담실 최해림 선생, 미국인 Mrs. Marge Hoyle 씨가 참여하였다.


Dialogue between Prof. Medard Boss and Prof. Dongshick Rhee


THE FIRST INTERVIEW

(inaudible for a few seconds)
Prof. Rhee: ... and in that case, you know(Prof. Boss: You read my book, Psychoanalysis and Daseinsanalysis?), yes, I felt some common theme, Visualsierung(Visualization) of the real self. In the process of psychotherapy, your patient, a woman psychiatrist from England, she drew a picture, first, devil-like woman, after that, she drew a picture of healthy baby. In that case, I think that a kind of visualization of the real self, in Zen Buddhism, the original self.(Prof. Boss : the true self.)

Prof. Boss: Yes. That should be. That's the shining force who drew this picture and if you come closer, or if you allow self to pervade the true self, your existence too is nourished by, you become healthy, healthier.

Prof. Rhee: So I would like to know your growth as a psychotherapist, process of your growth. We could learn from your experience(Ausbildung) (Prof. Boss: my training?) not only training, but everything to become yourself, the process of your growth.